i was seriously dissapointed with oblivion the elder scrolls wit shiverin isle and knights of the nine by addin these expansions they lost alot of the detail that made oblivion oblivion u do less of the dark brotherhood missions u cant see cloud ruler temple from bruma it sux i mite just sell my copy of the game of the year just to buy the old one soooooo much better, o yea an if ur level 20 onwards go to a goblin cave slaughter all the goblins but leave the pet rats go down there and let them attack u dont hurt them cos u shud b strong enuff to restore majicka an take hits easily but sit there and u can level up light armor to master and bloc, i stood there for bloody ages doin it. i comnpleted it on the 360 havin found all the nirnroot an bein the leader or ther brotherhood its awesome wen its got the detail a truly awesome game

